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Interviewer : Ma Wei, SegmentFault Think

Interviewee : Li Jiansheng (applicable)

Author, creator of Open Source Way, open source evangelist of Linux Foundation APAC, member of Apache local community Beijing. In 2020, he was named one of the "33 Chinese Open Source Pioneers" by SegmentFault and Kaiyuan.


Friends who pay attention to open source must be familiar with the ID "Suitable". He is the pseudonym of open source evangelist Li Jiansheng and is active in various community organizations, open source conferences and social networks.

As the producer of the "Open Source Culture & Open Source Business" sub-forum of the OSCAR 2021 Open Source Industry Conference, Mr. Li Jiansheng accepted our interview before the meeting and shared his open source road.


Eighteen years of open source road and two important turning points

Speaking of the ties between the fit and open source, it goes back to about 18 years ago, when he was still in university, he came across a RedHat Linux 7.3 CD (RedHat Linux distribution) by chance. Since then, with his strong interest, I am out of control, and I devote myself to the follow-up Linux related learning and work. It seems to be similar to the story of many people starting to come into contact with open source. Technical men, love toss, and start from interest, but this road will take 18 years to go.

Looking back at Shi Si's career history, it can be roughly divided into two sections-11 years after graduating from university, he has been engaged in technology research and development, and since 2016 he has been doing open source evangelism full-time. If you want to understand Sisi's open source career, there are two important turning points that have to be mentioned.

Self-confessed to be an ordinary school and a mediocre background, he entered a newspaper with a stable income and a high social status in the eyes of the world as soon as he graduated from college, working as a system administrator. However, he has been studying Linux since college and he was not willing to do so. An accidental opportunity at work brought him into contact with the Red Flag Linux distribution, so first turning point of appeared-in his relationship with Red Flag Linux After the in-depth exchanges of after-sales engineers, invited to join Red Flag Linux and officially began to engage in open source related work . After working for Red Flag Linux for a few years, Shisi also joined a startup company, still making products based on open source technology.

However, looking back at more than ten years of development experience, he used the word "failure" to describe it. All of this stems from the difference with the company's management philosophy. The root lies in whether it wants Upstream First. The upstream priority concept that Sisi has been advocating in the company has not been adopted. A large amount of repetitive and wasteful work has caused him a great sense of frustration. So in 2015, chose to start the second story of his 1612703bf92696 open source career— — Become an open source evangelist .

The opening of the second story originated from an article in the second half of 2015, "Why do commercial products based on successful open source projects fail?" "At that time, there was a discussion in the circle about whether open source should be commercialized. Based on the original intention to clarify this issue clearly, I incorporated my own R&D experience over the past 10 years into it. A classic article turned out Therefore, it has been forwarded and proliferated by senior people in the circle, and has received widespread attention. For Yu Shiyi, this was an opportunity and an inspiration. After writing a technical blog for more than ten years, Shiyi began to transform, "The Way of Open Source" (

He has been doing open source for nearly 20 years, and wrote 600,700 blogs in 5 or 6 years. However, when we talked about the word "persistence" with Shiyi, he didn't think he was a kind of persistence in open source, but he was unexpectedly calm. Light-earning income, absorbing knowledge, earning respect, and contacting all kinds of friends, these are the precious wealth that open source can give to you. has always chosen to be in the open source world because he believes he has gained> paid and said humbly, "From another perspective, I don't have many choices."


From engineer to independent open source evangelist

The position of "Advocate" was previously more popular in foreign companies. With the rise of open source and developer service companies in China, similar positions have gradually emerged in China, and people have translated it as "evangelist". So, from engineer to evangelist, what is an evangelist from the point of view of Siye? What is it like to be a full-time independent evangelist for 6 years? How does he preach?

Talk about sermons, Leadership and craftsmanship

In Shisi's view, becoming an evangelist is at the core of two abilities-

  1. has a deep insight or vision for a certain thing , such as Eric S·Raymond, the author of "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", the founder of O'reilly, etc. They have different thinking and thinking Way, and can tell a thing very clearly.
  2. There is a very important thing in the open source circle "craftsman spirit" (also known as "craftsman spirit") means that we will strive for excellence to do one thing well.​

When you have these two conditions, you can start to do some preaching things.

First of all, you have to have a good understanding of what you are doing, and believe it . If you are an evangelist for a certain open source technology or a certain project, the most important thing is that you have a clear understanding of all aspects of the project, what functions it has, what problems it solves, who are there to solve them, and how they do it Decision-making and so on.

then is the expression, you have to explain clearly . There are various carriers and media for expression and dissemination. For example, you can write articles, book, comment, make videos, interviews, make podcasts, give lectures at conferences, communicate with peers, and so on.

The digital age we live in is an era of accelerated change. People’s attention is divided into countless pieces. As long as you want, you can continue to be attracted. Roadside advertisements and disturbing information... In the digital age, human beings The most scarce thing is attention. The use of new technologies and various algorithms are used to grab people's attention. At this time, how important preachers are. He can express what you do clearly, explain the meaning clearly, and then be fascinating.

Therefore, in the view of the appropriateness, the evangelist is a very critical role for the organization that does anything, and even now this role is also technicalized, and some people use algorithms and social application data to spread.

Talk about independence, self-discipline makes me more free

Not full-time employed by any company, a "freelancer" in the conventional sense, but compared to a "free and open source evangelist", Shi Si is more willing to call himself an "independent open source evangelist"-after "freedom", in fact In need of a more self-disciplined state, escaped the check-in and performance appraisal of traditional companies. It is entirely up to oneself to decide all work, study and things to do.

Nowadays, Sisi still maintains more than 8 hours of working hours a day, including reading, writing, and participating in some open source things. Basically, it is mainly based on remote online work. When there is no epidemic, they will also travel across the country to participate in various meetings and Meetups.

From full-time employment to independent evangelism, the changes to suitability not only stop at careers, but also changes in life-the improvement of bad living habits, starting to exercise, running and practicing karate, make life more regular , You can spend more time with your family, and occasionally pick up and drop your children to and from school. Emotional and inner fluctuations can also be balanced...

If you ask, "What kind of experience is it like to be a full-time independent evangelist for 6 years?" It is that both work and life have entered a state of being able to make independent decisions.

"Book of Open Source", "Business of Open Source", "Community Leadership Development" and other WeChat group owners

In 2019, due to the closed nature of WeChat, those who did not advocate WeChat communication began to adapt to the habits of the public. WeChat groups such as "Open Source Book", "Open Source Business", and "Community Leadership Development" were formed on WeChat.

Talking about the original intention behind this, Shi Si talked about: I am very keen on exchanges and respect the spirit of dialogue. When I gave lectures and gave lectures to students, I was very eager for the dialogue form advocated by Aristotle or Plato in ancient Greece. In fact, the teacher taught the students or the sermon itself, it is a kind of dialogue-we communicate and don’t understand , Do not understand, disagree with, expand and communicate in depth. This kind of dialogue is actually much better than one-way output, and it has benefited me a lot, because the other person’s perspective will give me completely different thinking, encounter challenges, and then learn and communicate with each other, so that the most authentic things will be discussed. When it comes out, the truth becomes clearer and clearer.

not general, like to have in-depth discussions on a certain issue, keen on exchanges, and advocates the spirit of dialogue —— Observe the WeChat group formed by the appropriate group. The temperament, organization, and operating rules of these group chats follow these principles . The three groups are positioned differently, but they all focus on——

The WeChat group of "Books of Open Source" was established in 2019. Shi Si introduced to us: Initially, it was because I read a lot of open source-related books myself, and I hope to communicate with more people. Later, because the books were relatively classic and attracted more people to participate, they came with questions. For example, his question might be what is the motivation of the people involved in open source? Or what are the things that have been successful open source projects doing right? He will read some books to check some information. At this time, we can discuss any problems encountered in the process, and we will also organize offline book club activities. Up to now, 1612703bf929d8 we have read about 40 books that are strongly related to open source, such as software engineering, organization, business, etc., covering a wide

What I have to do in it is to establish the rules. For example, I think the most distinctive rule is that no matter who you are, as long as you are not active in the group chat within half a year, you will be removed. It may seem embarrassing for the person who proposes to go, but on the contrary, it will be recognized and respected by book friends who really read.

"Community Leadership Development" and "Open Source Business" are also similar. They focus on different fields and directions, focusing on community leadership building, open source business, etc., and have their own rules.


local open source fever? The real open source world is still deserted

When it comes to open source, what is unavoidable is the local open source boom in China in the past two years. However, Shisi, who is active in the boom, has a different view of the "local open source boom".

In his opinion, the current domestic open source craze has only stayed at the attention of more people. The media, investors, commercial companies, and scientific research institutes have talked a lot about open source, and Google hotspot trends have increased... But from the perspective of developers It can be seen that in open source commercial companies, in open source foundations such as Linux, GNOME, and Apache, on code hosting platforms, and in the technology community, the places where these open sources actually occur are still very deserted. The real excitement is that developers from different regions are enthusiastically discussing what my next problem should be solved 24 hours a day, and what problems I am facing now... and the domestic environment is still far from it.

We look forward to seeing our engineers walk into specific projects in the community to solve practical problems, discuss technologies on community platforms like SegmentFault, and submit code in open source projects.


OSCAR 2021 mysterious link, one-to-one in-depth communication with open source big cow

How to further explore my country's open source ecological development model and promote the implementation of open source technology in the Chinese market?

How to improve the company's open source governance capabilities?

How to promote the healthy and orderly development of the open source ecosystem and promote the rapid and healthy development of my country's open source industry?

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In order to solve these problems, the China Academy of Information and Communications Technology will host the " 2021 OSCAR Open Source Industry Conference ", inviting hundreds of open source technical experts to discuss the future of open source. Compliance will also be responsible for the production of the open source business sub-forum at the conference. .

I have cooperated with the Institute of Information and Communication for many years, from participating in conferences to submitting speeches, to becoming an individual member of No. 001 of the "Financial Technology Application Community" of the Institute of Information and Communication. Here, you can have close communication with top domestic open source projects, technical experts, core developers, and open source commercial companies, and there will also be very creative open source surroundings.

What’s worth mentioning is that Sisi spoiled us: In this year’s OSCAR, there will be a mysterious link, in which senior open source experts will be invited to "sit down", whether you are here with a problem, or if you want to meet with big coffee In chat, you can have exclusive, face-to-face, one-on-one communication opportunities.

you want to have in-depth exchanges with Shi Si (Li Jiansheng) and more open source big names?

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