Rongyun Ape Table School: I heard that girls are not suitable for IT, huh?

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I heard that girls are not good at mathematics, physics and chemistry.

I heard that beautiful girls have no brains.

I heard that girls are not suitable for the Internet industry...
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"NO! Nothing is impossible. There are no genders. Please speak with your ability."

In the April 7th Ape Desk Sect, Zang Qilong, the program host and VP of Rongyun Technology, and two female guests, Mu Mu and Sophie, who are engaged in products and R&D positions in the Internet industry, talked about the so-called "men and women in the Internet industry". do not".

Under the instillation of solidified concepts, the so-called "boys should look like boys and girls should look like girls" gradually formed and constantly exaggerated. It is easy for us to walk into this preset track and pattern. It fulfills the gender role expectations given to us by traditional concepts. Both men and women can be kidnapped under this stubborn prejudice.

However, the traditional model of "male in the outside and female in the house" has been reversed to a great extent in reality.

The Chinese women's football team won the Asian Cup, China's first female astronaut Wang Yaping to carry out extravehicular activities, the ubiquitous deeds of women in the fight against the epidemic, the rise of female power has become an indisputable fact.

The success of female leaders in all walks of life also encourages women in the workplace to pursue self-realization and become "big women" in their careers.

Specific to the Internet industry, are women unable to become excellent programmers? If there is no gender distinction, why is there always more males than females in the programmer's world?

This is precisely the result of gender labelling and behavioral templating. When parents think that girls are more suitable for choosing liberal arts, from high school to college and other higher education, a layer of funnel will form at each stage, and the number of women who end up in programmer positions is decreasing.

So, are women really unsuitable for the programmer industry? Is there a difference between men and women in the Internet industry?

In the current era of openness, diversity and inclusiveness, many old concepts are being loosened, and we have greater freedom to break away from social stereotypes.

Let's hear what the programmers have to say -

Mu Mu, an iOS developer of an Internet company

My undergraduate major is software engineering. After graduation, I entered an Internet company through school recruitment.

I have been a science class since high school. I went to college to major in computer science. After graduation, I became a programmer. I have always been in an environment where there are more men than women. I think in the programmer industry, there is no gender difference. What tasks should be completed, what should be learned, and what needs to be improved, everyone is the same.

If a leader or a colleague gives me less work because I'm a girl, I don't think it's taking care of me, but I think it's a distrust of my ability.

A few years ago, I once felt that my room for advancement was at a bottleneck, and I also considered whether to change jobs. But if you think about it carefully, if you go to other industries, you may encounter a more difficult predicament than you are now. Not only the Internet, but all industries are under the same pressure.

The work of programmers is a good protection for me, because this is a very simple group, and it is enough to rely on your technology to keep rising.

As long as you want to enter the Internet industry, no matter what position you are in, I think there is nothing that a girl can't do.

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Sophie, Baidu Product Manager

Speaking of which, my job-hunting experience was a little peculiar. Not through school recruitment or recruitment websites, but through Weibo searches to find companies that I think are reliable to submit resumes.

I also have more boys around me from school to work, but at work, no matter what task I do or how long I go on a errand, there is no gender difference.

In the workplace, I think men and women do have their own advantages. For example, girls may be better at empathy, while boys are better at logical thinking and business analysis. For example, in our meeting, some managers are not familiar with our team's business, but can give some very accurate opinions. What I ask of myself is that I hope that one day I can exercise this ability.

In fact, I also had self-doubts during my career development. When faced with some work content that requires strong control, I wondered if this is not suitable for me as a girl.

But starting from a small demand, and progressing step by step to the launch, and constantly learning in the process of being in charge of different projects, my confidence has gradually accumulated. On the one hand, there will be more places where you will find yourself doing well, and on the other hand, you will see many different positions, such as QA, PM, RD, etc., there are female leaders. If you can be refined and specialized in your field, there is no gender difference.

When you encounter difficulties, it is inevitable to doubt yourself, but in fact, no matter how hard you work, you will find that it is not as difficult as you imagined. As your ability slowly rises, confidence is built up.

So, is it okay for girls to be in the Internet industry?

Yes, absolutely.

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Zang Qilong, VP of Rongyun Technology

In my daily work, I don't make a distinction between male programmers and female programmers, including when I deploy tasks to them.

When I first got into iOS development, the blog I read most often was written by a very well-known female programmer. When I was still a vegetable, other people's technology has reached an unattainable level. So, I never felt that the best programmers had to be men. I also don't think there are so-called unsuitable positions for girls in the Internet industry, because essentially everyone is a mental worker, and the difference in physical fitness between men and women is basically equalized.

On the contrary, I feel from the experience and feedback of the two female guests that the so-called difference labels between male and female programmers are actually trained in different positions. For example, men are more rational and logical than women; women are more patient and collaborative than men. But the fact is that as a programmer, Mu Mu is no less logical than a man. As an operation and product, Sophie is better in terms of perception of the market and users.

Therefore, each person's way of thinking has little to do with gender, but with the specific position and industry you are engaged in.

Regarding the advantages of women in the workplace, my observation and feeling are that women will show stronger understanding and persuasion skills. For example, female product managers know how to explain a function point or product design ideas and ideas better.

Women also performed better in terms of resilience. To borrow Dota's slogan - surrender or be stronger than your enemy. Faced with difficulties, are you going to surrender, escape, or become stronger to conquer the problem completely. Resilience plays a key role here.

There may be times when you are close to the door, and you can just keep trying and persevere, including many difficulties and problems in life.