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[Bit Bear Story Collection 2.0] After the first anniversary birthday party of [Bit Bear Live Room], we sincerely upgraded and returned with a high profile. We have several upgrades like this:

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BitBear: The first guest has multiple identities. He is CNCF Ambassador, InfoQ DevOps Editor, Azure Product Manager who just joined Microsoft and a very familiar friend to developers! He has many personal tags, but no Slogan! BitBear met him at the Meetup of Community Gas Station 2.0. At that time, we held the K8s Community Days China with 200+ developers in Microsoft Beijing Office! Since he is a very familiar friend, of course, this live broadcast cannot be stingy to dig deeper into his story.
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Feynman: Hello everyone, my name is Pengfei Zhou, and my commonly used ID in the open source community is Feynman Zhou. Just joined Microsoft in May this year as a product manager. Today, I will share some of my experiences in different career directions and the habits that I have maintained for many years. I hope to explore the love and passion for work and life with you.
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Feynman: I'm currently working in the C+AI (Artificial Intelligence and Cloud) division of Microsoft Azure, working in the area of Container Secure Supply Chain. The goal is to ensure that software released or integrated by Microsoft Azure avoids as much as possible. A security breach occurs to prevent the published content from being tampered with. Now container supply chain security incidents are frequent, which is an emerging and popular technology field. In fact, as early as three years ago, Microsoft launched the open source supply chain security product line. The product management team I belong to is the Azure Core PM Team, and the business team is called Azure Upstream. It is a team at Microsoft responsible for cloud-native open source projects and dealing with the upstream community of Upstream.

"Software Supply Chain Security" : The process of modern software production is actually quite similar to the production and launch process of traditional manufacturing such as food and automobiles. Software developers combine self-developed business code and some third-party open source components into complete application software. The construction process will package these components together into deployable products, which are then deployed into production environments by enterprise customers. This process is aptly called the "software supply chain". In the container era, the goal of container supply chain security is to ensure the security and consistency of the entire lifecycle of containerized software from development to deployment.
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BitBear: Please reveal the work attributes and experience of Microsoft product managers.

Feynman: At Microsoft, product managers are more of a customer-facing, technology-backed, role that is responsible for the business end result. One word we often mention in our work is Business Impact. It is not only responsible for the early product incubation from zero to one, product prototype design, but also communication with the R&D team, and the deployment of the final product after it is delivered to the customer, including the final commercial landing. In fact, the entire product life cycle and process will have the participation of the product manager. This is similar but very different from my previous experience in product operation and community operation. As the saying goes, product managers are responsible for having children, and product operations are responsible for raising children.

BitBear: Since you mentioned that you were a community manager before, or even "famous", do you still need to continue to participate in the open source community when you switch to the role of product manager?

Feynman: Of course stay involved! Recently, my colleagues who are engaged in PM or non-technical background have asked me, how does a role like PM participate in the contribution of open source projects and communities? In fact, open source contributions are not limited to code, such as the release and management of user documents/projects, user experience optimization, community governance, project promotion, etc. Product managers can participate according to their personal interests.

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BitBear: Get! By giving full play to their initiative, everyone can participate in "open source contributions". So as a "newcomer" at Microsoft, how do you feel about Microsoft's team atmosphere and corporate culture?

Feynman: The Microsoft work environment is very liberal, both in time and place. Because Microsoft's teams and employees are globally distributed, in an international environment, they need to collaborate with teams in different time zones. This flexible office environment and user-friendly management method have instead made the entire production and research team more creative and have more time to think and collaborate and communicate asynchronously.

BitBear: Before you joined Microsoft, I knew that you entered the industry as a BI data analysis engineer at Hewlett-Packard. Later, we learned that when you were the community manager of Qingyun, and now you are working on Container Supply Chain Security at Microsoft. work in the field of Supply Chain. It seems that you have been making transitions and new attempts in your career direction, and in BitBear's words, you are a compound talent. Can you share your growth story in different roles and roles?
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Feynman: In the process of career development and transition, I am also exploring my own interests and areas of expertise. I came from a non-computer major in a double-non-university college, and I may have a lower starting point than many people. Because my English ability is relatively outstanding (I won a provincial award for participating in an English speech contest in college), I also taught myself a little computer programming and data analysis techniques. After graduating from my undergraduate degree in 2016, I was fortunate enough to work as a BI data analysis engineer at Hewlett-Packard, a global top 500 IT foreign company. Due to the large amount of data every day and repeated work in my work, I will feel that I have encountered a bottleneck in the development of professional skills, and there is no room for my own development.

At that time, domestic cloud computing technology was developing rapidly, and I realized that cloud computing technology has gradually become as indispensable as water and electricity for modern enterprises. Especially the newly emerging container technologies such as Docker and K8s at that time. Through self-study, I quickly understood the application scenarios and foundation of container technology, and firmly believed that cloud-native technology based on container technology will be the mainstream in the future. I was lucky to find QingCloud, a cloud computing startup, and joined the company's strategic product group and team as an early team member. Because I especially like to deal with users from different backgrounds and countries, and I am particularly interested in technical writing, I was working as a Technical Writer in the team at the time.

"Technical Writer (document engineer)" : This position is relatively niche in China, and companies like Microsoft, Google, and Amazon have dedicated document departments. However, there are many people in China who have a prejudice against the position of document engineer: "Who can't write documents?". We must admit that there is a specialization in the industry, and the role of the documentation engineer in the enterprise is to deliver complex products and technologies in the form of user-friendly content to end users. Common forms include product manuals for enterprise software, product guides for cloud computing products, user documentation, and technical blogs.

Feynman: During my work as a documentation engineer, I cultivated my product thinking. I thought more and learned how to communicate with different users and tell users how to use these software through content creation. The work experience of a document engineer also helped me a lot in my subsequent transfer as an open source community manager within the team. The previous accumulation made me better understand the products and users. The work of community manager has given me the opportunity to cooperate with users and contributors from all over the world. I have also initiated and organized a number of technical activities in China. This work experience is very interesting. Interested friends can read what I wrote before. An article I have read 🔗 "I am an open source community manager" . Of course, during this period I met many good friends, one of which is our Bit Bear!

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BitBear: I've heard a popular saying that if you don't read English documents when you're doing technology, you're already slow. I also know that there are many developers who have a good English foundation or have been developing advanced language skills. You also mentioned that you found your English to be good while you were a student and wanted to hear about your learning experience.

Feynman: The point I've always advocated is that language must be learned in the natural environment, not by rote memorization or memorization of words. Here are a few small tips:
Listening: Listen to English podcasts (there is a well-known podcast in the cloud native field called Google Kubernetes Podcast)
Spoken language: watch American and British dramas, try imitation and shadow reading; find a foreign teacher online one-on-one (such as italki software)
Writing: Keep reading English content on a regular basis, take notes and highlight efficiently and review Bit Bear: Many colleagues mentioned that you are very passionate when you work, and you can often inspire colleagues around you. What are the secrets that make you enjoy it so much work every day? Can you share how you stay away from mental friction in the workplace?

Feynman: Actually, there is no secret. My approach is to find a career you love and keep investing in it, with a lifelong learning and growth mindset in your work. For example, I have always liked English since I was a child. Although I am not an English major, my love will keep me in the habit of learning English for a long time. After working hard, winning the second prize in the Hunan Provincial English Speech Contest is also an objective test of my English strength. Approved. This has made me more confident in subsequent job interviews with foreign companies and in my daily work. There is also the courage to record and share the professional skills that you have learned, and take the initiative to obtain feedback and comments from others, constantly expand yourself, and think during the learning process.

BitBear: We share a lot of experience that prompted us to advance. Do you want to talk about how you "entertainment"?

Feynman: One of my tags is an athlete, basically all ball games have contact. I've played basketball for 15 years, table tennis, badminton, and soccer. What I love most recently is hiking. There are plenty of hiking resources around Beijing, and I have more time to quietly think about my life or work and re-plan during the hiking process. My long-term hobby may still be related to my career. I prefer technical writing, especially when I earn my first barrel of dollars through technical writing, I feel very fulfilled. In addition, I also prefer to read books related to community cultural topics. If you are interested in open source communities and culture, I recommend you to read books such as "Community-Operated Art", "Cathedral and Bazaar", and "People Powered". several books.
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Talk shows are also very decompressing. I also prefer to watch Li Dan's talk shows. Li Dan recently produced a "Li Dan Talk Show Workbook", which is also recommended to everyone by the way. For foreign talk shows, I first liked to watch "The Ellen Show".
There is also a new hobby recently - recording videos and being a wild up master.

Bit Bear: Ben Xiong is looking forward to the official launch of your channel at 101 points, and I hope you invite Bit Bear to appear in your video.
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Bit Bear has something to say

Between Pengfei's conversations, the word "lucky" is always mentioned. And looking at the turning points and highlights of his life is absolutely inseparable from constant thinking and advance reserve. In his own words, the starting point is not very high, but he has always maintained an "optimist" character, and has the habit and persistence of making up for his weaknesses, participating in voluntary contributions, and taking the initiative to reserve skills. So in the face of many choices and new things, he is always at ease and easy to deal with.
Bit Bear prides itself on knowing many developers and friends in the IT industry. Feynman's characteristics are more like a collection of contemporary developers, and I also feel the sparkle of this group of people in him. I hope this episode of stories will light up a place in your heart, wake up every day and welcome a new day, and look forward to hearing your sharing!
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